Vietnam / salary

I found this survey and it says

     SALARY SURVEYS 1,183
     UPDATED November 2024
     AVERAGE SALARY / YEAR		MOST TYPICAL SALARY / YEAR
     459,294,500 VND            172,112,500 VND
     $18,680 USD                $7,000 USD
     
     (24587.5 VND = 1 USD)

…and I can’t believe that ALL Vietnamese are “multimillionaires” in VND

Who cares about average, especially something so skewed like the salary distribution.

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These numbers are too far from reality.

Vietnamese Income per capita in 2023 is about 5,000,000 VND/month, ~ 60,000,000 VND a year ~ 2500 USD/year

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@Duck_Gia
@TaoLaoBidaoBanBanhBa
Do you know how Einstein thought about Mathematics and Statistics? He said

As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.

Theories and realities are two different shoes. And statistics? Wiki says:

Statistics, when used in a misleading fashion, can trick the casual observer into believing something other than what the data shows. That is, a misuse of statistics occurs when a statistical argument asserts a falsehood. In some cases, the misuse may be accidental. In others, it is purposeful and for the gain of the perpetrator. When the statistical reason involved is false or misapplied, this constitutes a statistical fallacy .

This survey is a “statistical fallacy.” The author’s intention is probably to make Vietnam look expensive for FDI.

As far as I know, salaries in Vietnam will be lower than in other countries. The price is cheaper and the converted currency value is quite different. So, VN dev very excited with jobs in outside countries

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Let me tell you about the employment situation in the West and especially in Europe (Germany or France). There are two types of IT developers: IT developers and application developers.

  • Developers who work with the technological foundations of software (APIs for e.g. SAP or AWS, operating systems, databases, networks, AI repositories, compilers, etc.) are IT developers. These people are highly sought after and are well paid (between €80,000 and €120,000).

  • Developers who work with, for example, SPRING BOOT or another framework to build customer applications are application developers. These people face tough “cut-throat” competition from “cheap” countries like Vietnam, the Philippines or India. So their earnings are between €40,000 and €80,000).

It all depends on your skills as an IT or application developer. Well: the standard of living in Europe (or in the US) is correspondingly expensive. For example, rent for a 50 m² apartment is between €600 and €1000+ per month (depending on the city - France is a bit cheaper). A dozen eggs cost between €2 and €3, etc. The ratio between high income and high expenditure puts the so-called high income in Europe into perspective.
By the way, I was in Vietnam in 1980 and saw how extraordinarily cheap a large bowl of Pho or a delicious Banh Mi was…for my dollars at that time
There is NO paradise on this planet Earth, and Americans like to say: “There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch”

Remote work lấy ngoại tệ xài thì cũng không tệ :)).

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Như này thì tuyệt cú mèo kkk. Làm task module hay maintaince dự án nhỏ cũng đủ tháng công kkk

The common in VN is the range of salary too wide.

You can see someone get only 5M or 10M per month, and you can also see someone get 100M per month. But overall, the salary in VN is way to low when compare with our neighbor. For someone who has better English and work for foreign companies or outsourcing will have much higher pay than average.

Notes that, in VN when we talking to Salary, by default it’s salary per month (doesn’t matter how many day each month).

Surprisingly the cheapest cost when compare to Western countries is the housing cost. In a busy city like Saigon, you can rent a room for 5M (~ $200USD) per month while you need to pay x5 or more in western cities. The second cheapest in VN is phone plan. You can pay few dollars for hundreds Mb data :slight_smile:
Not to mentioned, the most expensive one in VN can be a car. The OTD price is so high especially for car with big engine and import from outside Asian. Also, you have to go to get Gov. checkup for every 6 months when you car getting older.

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you can rent a room for 5M (~ $200USD) per month

Munich/Berlin or Lyon/Paris are comparable to Saigon. With ~200 USD you can’t get anywhere except to a remote village 60…100 km away. I’m really surprised when I hear about the rent from you.

How about a big bowl of Pho or a 30 cm long Banh Mi these days? My favorite dish from Vietnam was “Bún Bo Giò Heo Huê”. Deadly spicy, but delicious :heart:

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“Bún Bo Giò Heo Huê”

=> right choice !

I would say it’s much flavourful than Pho. But Pho is easier to eat for most of people.
For Pho, there are two styles: (1) Phở Bắc - North, they mince the meat (but not as ground beef) and eat with very limited or nothing sprouts/Thai basil/ coriander… (2) South or others, beef is sliced too thin, and eat with sprouts/Thai basil/ coriander.
If you visit Saigon or South of VN, I would recommend you to “Hủ Tiếu Nam Vang”. It’s also kind of rice noodle soup but the recipe is far differ than Pho.

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Dear @csdl
“Hủ Tiếu Nam Vang” sounds delicious and very spicy. You know, the time when I loved traveling around the world is long gone. There are several Vietnamese restaurants in Perpignan and maybe I will ask them about this “Hủ Tiếu Nam Vang”.

As an old man, I like to stay in my cork oak plantation and take care of the cork oaks and their acorns (which are edible).

“Hu Tieu Nam Vang” is not spicy. In English, you may see “Hu Tieu Nam Vang” in the menu as “Phnom Penh Noodle Soup”.

Note that, “Nam Vang” is Vietnamese pronunciation of Phnom Penh (Cambodia capital), just like we call “French” is “Pháp” (but still call Paris is Paris :slight_smile: )

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Thank you very much. I didn’t know that “Nam Vang” means Phnom Penh in Vietnamese.

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